Commercial Investigations, Inc.

May 6, 2009

Benefits of Using a Collection Agency

Filed under: Collection Agency Information — CII @ 2:03 pm

A great advantage of using a collection agency that works on a contingency basis is that you won’t have to pay anything unless they are successful. So instead of using your own money to track down a debtor with no guarantee about the outcome, a collection agency will do the work for you and will only be paid if they are able to collect.

Collection agencies specialize in collecting bad debt. This allows you to get back to running your business without having to worry about your past due accounts. Collection agencies have experience and the latest techniques and technology, giving them a much greater chance of collecting on a past due account.

You or your company may have troubles collecting if your debtor is in another state or if you have lost all contact with him/her. Debt collectors are up to date on rules and regulation regarding collecting in specific states. Debt collectors are also experts in skip tracing, which allows them to track down a debtor and find any information that will help them in the process of collecting.

Collection agencies also have the option to report the past due account to credit reporting agencies, which can sometimes spur a debtor into paying. Collection agencies can also handle large volumes of debt, which can overwhelm a business when they try to handle it themselves.

The longer you wait, the harder a debt is to collect. If you are unable to collect a debt, don’t let it go!

May 5, 2009

Collection Agency Pricing

Filed under: Collection Agency Information — CII @ 4:34 pm
Most collection agencies, such as Commercial Investigations, Inc., will collect on a contingency basis. This means the agency will keep a percentage of whatever they collect. Other collection agencies will require you to pay a fixed fee per account instead of a contingency plan. The advantage of a contingency based collection service is that you won’t have to pay anything if the collection agency is unsuccessful.The percentage will usually vary depending on certain aspects of your past due account. Cases over a year are usually collected at a higher rate, because they are harder to collect and require a lot more work in order to see the debt paid. Accounts that are less than thirty days old will see a smaller percentage rate, as they generally take less time.

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May 4, 2009

Credit Reports

Filed under: Misc. — CII @ 2:07 pm

A credit report is a record of a person’s credit payment history. A credit report allows a lender or creditor to decide whether or not to grant you credit. Most of the information comes from companies the person has done business with.A collection agency has the ability to report past due accounts to credit reporting agencies. This can often be used as leverage to help a debtor to expedite his payments, but it will not work for every situation. If the debtor pays after the debt has been reported, it will be shown as ‘paid’ but will not be taken off the report until a certain amount of time has passed.

For more information or to order your own credit report, visit the sites below:

Equifax
Experian
TransUnion

April 28, 2009

Ed Magedson’s Virtual Mafia

Filed under: RoR Watch — Dustin @ 2:23 pm

Ed Magedson and His Racketeering Operation Called ‘Rip Off Report.com’

We recently wrote an article on Rip Off Report and it’s ties with google, now Commercial Investigations, Inc. would like to go into more detail about Rip Off Report.com itself. Ed Magedson, the creator of R.O.R. (rip off report.com) one might consider him “The Godfather” of an online Corleone family or if that analogy seems a bit dated, a Tony Soprano of the internet. Ed has a cutting edge way of extorting businesses. In every mafia movie, T.V. show, or story, typically thugs and gangsters show up to law abiding businesses with baseball bats, and guns asking them if they would like to pay for “protection.” Many people may think this is a “thing of the past” Ed Magedson is doing this to companies via the internet. Instead of physically damaging a business or it’s employee’s Ed attacks reputation, and image. Sarah Fenske from the Phoenix Times had an interview with Ed Magedson, and wrote this article, “The Real Rip Off Report”

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-02-01/news/the-real-rip-off-report

Sarah writes this on page 6 of her article,
“It’s because, as the number of lawsuits against Magedson has increased, lawyers have learned about Magedson’s willingness to take money from companies to mitigate bad complaints. He calls it his “corporate advocacy program.”

Here’s how it works: Businesses pay Magedson a fee, plus a monthly retainer. And in exchange, Magedson makes “EDitor’s comments” next to complaints — generally saying that the claims are false.”

Ed and his lawyer defend this “corporate advocacy program” by Ed needing this money to keep the website running. A minimal fee would be understandable since websites have a cost for running them. However if Ed was doing this program for the right reasons, it would be an “at cost” program. In multiple cases Ed charges six figure price ranges and a monthly retainer.

If Ed was not extorting and had a legitimate “at cost corporate advocacy program” the cost of editors and website hosting, maintenance, would cost businesses no more than a few hundred dollars to get their slander taken off the website, and allowing Ed to make a profit. Web hosting is such a competitive market, using godaddy.com you can have an extremely reliable website, with unlimited storage space and transfer for $12 or $13 bucks a month. The only actual costs you are looking at, would be an editor, website manager, and money in Ed’s pocket. (If Ed hired efficiently he could even have a website manager double as an editor) So, imagine if Ed charged a company $200 one time fee and then a $15 a month retainer. This leaves the website cost being covered by just one business signing on to the corporate program, leaving all other business’s retainers as pure profit. The $200 would be to pay his editor and cash in his pocket, not bad for a job that would take a whole 15min or less to go look up the negative comment and delete it. Then repost a new one saying this previous comment was found to be slander by a competitor, or something of the sort. Even raising the ante on this, a one time cost of $5,000 and a monthly retainer of $50 a month, his profits would be through the roof.

So why does Ed Magedson charge some companies anywhere from $100,000 to a reported $800,000 fee to remove comments. Oh wait, maybe an additional cost to the website is paying someone to do Search Engine Optimization on websites with slander being written on them by writing tags, linking websites and keywords without consent of the website owners. Also putting incorrect keywords and tags to company names which is borderline illegal and most search engines do not allow such tagging to be done. Google typically disapproves of this with every other website it indexes but lets R.O.R. get away with it. Google does not allow duplicate sub domains to be indexed yet however Google indexes thousands of duplicate pages from various domains and sub domains that Ed owns.  Maybe if Ed Magedson cut back on NEGATIVE search engine optimization costs his website costs would not be so high. There is a fine line between capitalistic profit and extortion, it clearly has been crossed.

At this point, Ed isn’t perfect but he doesn’t look like too bad of a guy right? He is just trying to make A LOT of money from his idea. That is until you hear the other part of this racketeering operation he has. In many known cases, Ed and his “friends” he often refers too, write their own negative comments and slander against companies. Ed also allows known slander to sit on his website, and he does nothing to these known comments unless one pays him. To wrap this whole thing up in a nutshell; Ed Magedson and his friends write extremely negative slander on your company with no factual basis, then the few customers who may have actually had a bad experience completely over exaggerate the actual experience they have had to keep the “flow” going that was made by Ed, then by the time your company finds out they are so knee deep in negative comments it will cost them six figures to erase these comments. Rip off Report, a very modern, sophisticated shake down.

April 23, 2009

Report on Rip off Report

Filed under: RoR Watch — Dustin @ 1:59 pm

Looking at Commercial Investigations, Inc. current position on search engines it is very interesting to see the contrast between Google.com vs. Yahoo.com and Msn.com. Rip off Report sadly is at the top in Google and yet on Msn searches Rip off Report is on the very bottom of page 2 and yahoo the very bottom of page 1.  The staff at Commercial Investigations, Inc. thinks this is interesting, especially because of articles such as this one,

http://www.97thfloor.com/blog/public-spam-report-google-your-honeymoon-with-rip-off-report-has-to-stop/

This article was written by Chris Bennett, one of the world’s leading S.E.O. (search engine optimization) specialists. His website, 97thfloor.com published this article is arguably Rip off Report’s biggest nemesis. Here is an interesting exert from this article,

“As you can see Google is definitely treating Rip Off Report different than Yahoo and Live (msn). Live has dropped them from their results all together, so applauds all around for them. Something I found surprising was Yahoo has almost twice as many pages indexed (676k +) as Google, but ranks virtually nothing whereas Google pretty much ranks every single post in its index in the top 20.”

Just looking at our own Google ranking vs. search engines it is amazing to see how clear and true this is holding to be. Not even getting into the legitimacy of Rip off Report and just looking at their relationship with Google.com raises almost a certain flag of shadiness. Google.com is very good about regulating websites, their bots or crawlers if you will, as well as their staff of webmasters usually are extremely on point at regulating illegitimate S.E.O. methods and punishing websites. However for some reason, Google.com has done nothing to stop Rip off Report and in fact has almost awarded R.O.R. with higher rankings. Chris Bennett wrapped up his article with this,

“So to sum up an extremely long post, Rip Off Report is spamming Google’s index, and Google is currently letting them get a way with it. They know this and so do their users and as a result thousands of peoples lives are being ruined due to blatant lies and made up stories. Again I am a lover of the Internet and as messed up as Rip Off Report maybe there is a place on the internet for lies and junk, that is the beauty of the net we all have a voice. However there is no place for this whatsoever in Google’s search results.”

Commercial Investigations, Inc. has been a target and picked on by Ed Magedsonon, the creator of Rip off Report in the past and C.I.I. is currently still fighting this battle. Commercial Investigations, Inc. has been alleged with many false statements on his website. In response to posts on Rip off Report regarding some of our business to business calls, we have a no call list clearly placed on our website. By law we are obligated to have a no call list, and we more than willingly full fill that obligation. Should anyone feel the need to use it, is clearly up to you. Commercial Investigations, Inc. is also proud to say that we follow all rules and regulations stated in the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.

Every business in the world wants to give their clients the absolute best and finest services, Commercial Investigations, Inc. likes to inform our clients that they can upgrade to a premium service which will includes any and all court fees should a law suit arise, and reporting all debtor information to all credit report agencies. However, they do not have to upgrade to this package, in exact wording of the letter we sent to our clients it says,

“We have received your request to cancel the accounts you have placed for collection. Before your cases were accepted to be placed in our system for collection, you signed a contract that agrees to a 10% cancellation fee if there has been activity on your cases in the preceding 60 days. “Activity” is defined as letters, phone calls, skip tracing updates, or payments made within the previous sixty days.

If a payment in any amount is made to us or directly to you, and you then wish to close your account, the entire anticipated commission is due and payable immediately before such account can be deemed closed.

If your request to close your accounts is due to being offered our premium service in the form of a forwarding fee contract (whereby we agree to forward a specified number of collection cases straight to litigation for a one-time fee), you are under no obligation to employ this service. Being offered our premium service is NOT a legitimate reason to cancel your contract.

Many clients find our premium service to be very cost-effective. Rest assured, our standard collection service is extremely efficient, and we will continue to service your accounts on a straight contingency basis, with no upfront cost to you. If you still have questions, please contact us immediately.”

Commercial Investigations, Inc. does not force our clients into any situation they do not want to be in. C.I.I. pushes our services as much as a fast food restaurant pushes a large combo upgrade; we ask if they would like it, and leave it in your hands to make a decision. As for a the 10% cancellation fee, it is because the moment we receive your account, C.I.I. begins skip tracing work and phone calls on your delinquent account(s). Work is done from day one, and most of the time we do not even recover the costs of resources used with the 10%. If we receive payment or settling a debt, we are doing exactly what our clients hired us for, which is why we ask to receive our commission in the initial contract.

It is simple outrageous to read the things being said about our Commercial Investigations, Inc. we urge everyone to think for themselves and do not believe an arguably illegitimate website such as Rip off Report to base your opinion about our company.

April 20, 2009

Picking a Partner

Filed under: Business Tips — CII @ 10:00 am

Deciding who will manage your past due accounts is always a decision that requires a lot of thought. How will you know if they are the right company for you and your needs? Here are some questions to pose to any potential collection agencies you may consider using:

  • What is their success rate?
  • How long before they being to work on your case?
  • Are there collectors experienced with your industry?
  • What kind of bad debts are they able to handle?
  • Can the collection agency collect in your state?
  • Are they able to skip-trace your debtor?
  • If the debt is uncollectable, will they be able to start litigation procedures?
  • Does the agency charge a flat fee or work on a contingency basis?
  • Does the agency make you sign any long term agreements?

April 13, 2009

Commercial Investigations, Inc. Takes a Stand

Filed under: Uncategorized — Dustin @ 1:02 pm

It is no secret that Commercial Investigations, Inc. has been attacked online for quite some time now. Commercial Investigations, Inc. is now starting a “counter-attack” campaign against all of these negative comments and feedback. The fact of the matter is for every negative story about our company there are a slew of positive experiences. However in the collections industry we deal with C.E.O.’s or their managers, business owners, financial account supervisors etc. people who do not have time to come online and post about their experiences with Commercial Investigations, Inc. Clients of ours expect results and when we show them results we do not get twenty positive comments online, we just receive more business. This situation creates a void between the truth of our company and the slander written online.

Commercial Investigation, Inc. is now going to try our absolute best to fill that void. C.I.I. has recently and is currently contacting some of our most loyal clients from years past to this day. We are encouraging them to write testimonials of these positive experiences. If Commercial Investigations, Inc. operated as negative as online articles and stories have stated, C.I.I. would not be open for business. Not only would we not be open for business we would not continue to grow and gain more clients the way Commercial Investigation, Inc. is in fact doing.

This leads back to the void previously stated. A business such as Commercial Investigations, Inc. continues to show growth and expansion in the real world, with customers and clients continually coming back and a base of ever growing new clients, yet online there is a plethora of negative stories. The saddest part is people will attack our company just because of the nature of our services. It’s absolute fact no one wants to deal with collectors. In these hard economic times no one wants to take the few dollars some people have, which is why our clients send accounts to us. Notice in the collection process no one blames the debtor, and no one blames the creditor, simply everyone attacks the middle man. How often do we hear the term don’t shoot the messenger, but that is the absolute truth when it comes to collection agencies.

With all this having been said, Commercial Investigations, Inc. says, “No More…” We are going to be creating various blogs, and other methods of sending information to the mass public. Once again at this time we are urging all previous clients that have had positive experiences please contact us. We also are urging all other collection agencies to stand up to this injustice. Here at C.I.I. we have been wronged and enough is enough. Commercial Investigations, Inc. we’re taking a stand.

Sincerely,
Staff of Commercial Investigations, Inc.

February 19, 2009

Collection Agency Services

Filed under: Collection Agency Information — CII @ 1:58 pm

A collection agency has many techniques and technologies at its disposal in order to provide an effective way of recovering past due accounts. Any or all of these services may be employed to insure the best results on your account.

Letters and Phone Notifications- Your debtor will be notified in and writing and over the phone that the debt has been sent to a collection agency. Both will explain the matter of the debt, the owed amount, and ways to pay off the debt in a way that suits both client and debtor.

Skip Tracing- This is a process of finding information about a debtor who has changed his or her contact information and is thus unreachable. They may have moved and/or changed phone numbers, sometimes as a way to avoid paying debts. A collection agency can use public records to help with this, and sometimes even local or federal databases in order to find the information on the missing debtor.

Credit Reports- A collection agency can pull credit reports if the information is pertinent to the current debt. This can help to understand more about the debtor and their circumstance, thus allowing the collect to choose an appropriate course of action. Each case is unique and requires its own course of action.

Credit Bureau Reporting- A collection agency can report the debtor’s past due account balance to the credit reporting bureaus. This negative information will stay on a credit report for up to seven years. This often spurs a debtor into paying the past due account off before it gets reported.

Judgment Collection- If you have a court judgment, there are many steps that can be taken if the debtor refuses to be such as tracking down assets and garnishments. There are cases where a debtor may try to hide their assets in order to avoid paying, but an experienced collection agency can locate these assets. There are also necessary steps that a collection agency can do for you in order to seize their assets or acquire garnishments or liens.

Attorney Forwarding- If a debtor does not respond or refuses to pay the debt, a collection agency can forward the case to an appropriate attorney. Most collection agencies, such as Commercial Investigations Inc., have a network of attorneys. A lawsuit can then be initiated, if it has been recommended.

Flexible Payment Options for Debtors- Collection agencies that are willing to work out a payment option with a debtor almost always increase the odds of a debt being paid.

February 10, 2009

About Collection Agencies

Filed under: Collection Agency Information — CII @ 1:23 pm

All companies have past due accounts that negatively effect the process of doing business. Every company needs a way to lower the amount of debt owed to them, in order to be least affected by it. Some companies have their own departments in order to go after debt owed, but not all have the resources for this. Many more companies often write off past due accounts because they simply do not have the time or necessary skills to collect on them.

This is where collection agencies step in. When a company fails to collect on a debt, a collection agency will step in and attempt to collect on a debt on behalf of the company. The business saves time and avoids the frustration of dealing with a delinquent debtor. Hiring a collection company is a more cost effective way of seeing a past due account paid.

The definition of a collection agency is a company whose specialty is obtaining payments by a debtor, whether they are a person or company, on behalf of its clients. A collection agency will use phone calls, e-mails, or letters as a tool to help them with the recovery process. Skip traces or credit checks, along with other techniques, are often put to use when a debtor has changed contact information or tried other evasion tactics.

Collection agencies, such as Commercial Investigations Inc., work on a contingency basis, which means they are paid a percentage of the amount recovered. With Commercial Investigations Inc. this provides the client peace of mind- if no amount is collected, the client owes nothing.

December 3, 2008

Response Letter to BBB

Filed under: Uncategorized — CII @ 9:21 am

Dear BBB,

The article entitled, “Commercial Investigations, Inc.: Harassing to Help,” attempted to present a fair and balanced view of the collections industry by offering a profile of one company that has received some complaints. As news articles go, it had a light touch. The writer seemed inappropriately removed from the collections agency, just like a correspondent in a foreign country is implicitly disengaged from its subject. A travel writer might approach a place with passion and offer an idealized vision of such a place. The subject in this article does not inspire a lot of idealization. The collections industry, in general, is not talked about much, and therefore, most people are not educated about it. It is one of those overlooked and arcane topics, like Maritime Law—the Law of the Sea—a highly complex yet under-researched area warranting more careful analysis than most journalists have time for. Overall, the point of view of the BBB article worked well for the journalist because it seemed to invite a breezy sort of overview.

Had the journalist bothered to scrutinize the subject, the article would have disclosed a few complexities that might have proven tiresome. It was likely written to an audience without more than a passing curiosity about the subject.  A publication specializing in a trade attracts an audience with a vested interest in the material and these readers need in-depth information. The collections industry is not a highly popular news item. Most people do not want to remember a call about a late payment, a financial oversight, or an unpaid account. Who can blame them? Few readers are drawn to the subject. Considering the author’s material, the readability of this article was surprisingly good.

Naturally, the journalist, too, seems dispassionate about the topic. Still, he or she persists in the presentation of a fair and balanced story of a day or an hour in the dross world of collections. Few readers want to read about how to fix a plumbing leak or a flat tire or how to fix a problem with their computer print: these are not events of high magnitude. You have to throw in some controversy just to incite some curiosity.
Now imagine how dispassionate a debtor company who is being reminded by a phone agent about a past-due invoice the company failed to pay. The phrase “Don’t kill the messenger,” comes to mind. It is not the kind of news anyone wants to hear. The reality of our economy is that the collections industry plays a necessary role. No one company should be held accountable for being in an industry overlooked by the media and by the disinterested public. Law firms have a bad reputation when they are regarded as “ambulance chasers” or tax lawyers or collection lawyers. They still have a job to do.

In this article, the journalist professes immediately that it is annoying to have a telemarketer call and a telemarketer marketing a collections service is about as annoying as you can get. During times of prosperity, no altars smoke. NO one wants to hear about it. When a business is owed money or owes money, the topic only then becomes important. It is suddenly important for one of two reasons: either because they want to be paid or they want to remove the worry over something unpaid. A collections company has to operate in a thankless world where people are disgruntled before they even get on the phone. They are either stressed about owing money or stressed about getting money owed to them. Enter the debt collector. Imagine walking in his or her shoes.

The collections industry and telemarketing are aspects of the marketplace with no glamour or intrigue—they are both heavily regulated and fraught with negative associations. The point is that these subjects do not capture the national consciousness the way subjects like “Wall Street” or the stock market tend to capture the audience.

The point is that debt itself is the crux of anxiety in this culture and that those in debt or owed a debt are already in a “complainant” state of mind. Some complain their way out of debt. Few companies can afford to answer disputes and most settle for this reason. The legal system is clogged with frivolous lawsuits. The agencies are clogged with complaints, all of which have two sides. Considering the aura surrounding the industry, the journalist did a good job of not reading too heavily into an area that most do not want to enter. However, we ask that we are given the time and the forum to answer complaints on a case by case basis. Every industry has different needs in terms of information, updates, and knowledge of legal matters. This company works with the whole spectrum of business to business transaction. Not even one department is an expert on another’s day by day challenges. Overseeing all departments working with a heavy volume of cases is difficult.

In spite of all this, there are many satisfied clients who do not report how please they are. The list of successful cases not documented with your office, but it is a long list. Our efforts to improve in all areas continue and we offer package deals that guarantee clients our services on a number of cases, so the figures we charge are not accurately represented in this article. Most of the business we do is with other businesses and does not involve individual consumers. There is always confusion when a consumer complains to your agency because the business they own is in dispute with another business. Few of the clients want to deal with the technical side of the legal process and they are better off letting legal counsel do their job than trying to get involved with the attorney offices. These points are hopefully ones that you take into consideration when assigning grades to collection companies in general.

We appreciate the journalist’s attempt to be fair and balanced. The journalist did represent the material to the best of the journalist’s ability. Under the conditions, it could not be possible to go in-depth with complete accuracy. A little knowledge of the industry is sometimes worse than none at all. The title actually illustrates one of the paradoxes of the industry very well.

Thank you for the opportunity to present our side of these issues. We extend our regards to your office and we are aware you function as an intermediary agent. The referee position taken by your offices is actually very similar to the position collection companies often are forced to take: they hear the debtor’s side of the story and the creditor’s side of the story. We only can follow the legal process and strive to be as helpful as we can to our clients.

Ironically, depending on the case, what one complainant reports, such as the farm equipment store owner quoted in the article, a series of persistent phone calls is what another company hires a collections company for in the first place. Creditors who want their past due accounts paid in full are searching for an agency that will be persistent enough to locate and recover a bad debt.

The atmosphere surrounding these cases is often a highly charge atmosphere and the reason they need a third-party collections company is similar to why they need an intermediary agent to proves their complaints. The resolution process is a major component of the debt collection proves: ultimately, each entity wants to resolve the matter and proceed with their respective trades. One of the examples mentioned in your article highlighted phenomena that is illustrative of how bizarre a case can become. The example mentioned that the creditor and the debtor had an otherwise good relationship. The debt collection agency is sometimes hired during a temporary disagreement between two businesses that may resolve their differences and settle privately, leaving the collections agency in the lurch and the collection agency may never recover the legal fees and other fees incurred in the collection attempt that was abandoned by both parties.

All of the business conducted by CII is over the phone. The importance of follow up and persistence cannot be greater than in the businesses that rely exclusively on telephone deals to operate. Face-to-face sales are still demanding in these areas—follow up and contracts and the ability of the sales agent to close a deal—but they involve personal meetings which is a different style of selling. It is one of the most difficult positions in business and a subject of controversy because it is expensive to chase and recover debts. A phone sale requires precise communication, persistence, and the ability to convince decision makers in a very limited time. Until someone has tried telemarketing, they might not fully appreciate the challenge especially considering the well-known adversity to phone sales among the population. The only thing these sales people have is their voice and the contract. A potential client is made an offer and has the option to hang up the phone at any time. The contract clearly outlines the agreement between the client and the collection company. Furthermore, the company has a dedicated customer service department that responds to complaints.

Insolvency procedures vary from state to state. Each state has its own rate of interest, its own regulations and its own laws. It is difficult to generalize about the problems that can beset the debt collector. Sales and customer service people are at the mercy of the rules and lengths of time insolvency procedures require when negotiating with clients. These points make it a challenge to educate a business trying to collect a debt for the first time. We hope that a business owner will elect the best method for dealing with a debt and try to become as well-informed as time permits.

Sincerely,
CII

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